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Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 12:09:07 am
I was playing as Milan (For nubfaces they're located in northern Italy in Medieval II.) and right now I own most of Italy, some of North African and am currently trying to conquer Venice. My main goal is to be allied with the Turks, Egyptians and Byzantines and control islands in the Aegean to secure epic amounts of cash.

Until then Venice must die. So they have three enemies. The holy roman empire, France and the Papal States. I bribed HRE and the Papal States to attack Venice. The Papal states took on a castle with trade routes into the sea. They took the castle. HRE attacked an island god knows where in the Aegean. I took Venice, their Capital. We won, Venice was destroyed. In order to be my allies I asked HRE and the papal states to give me the territories they just took. They gave me the territories, became my allies and now trade with me, Venice is gone and I'm ruler of two seas and Italy.

<3
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 14, 2007, 12:17:57 am
I need to get back to my epic campaign with my Norman freebooters from Sicily. I'm at war with pretty much everyone and am/was the terror of the Mediterranean. Of course, nobody will give me peace because they can't get over how awesome Norman Knights are
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Flask on November 14, 2007, 12:21:27 am
Is the game really that involved? Sounds cool.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 12:30:35 am
Its more involved then that. 10x more diplomacy then you can imagine. Diplomacy, city building (Each territory has a city. Theres like 600 territories in the game.) plus it has grand scale battles like you would not believe. Check it out. Also you have faction leaders, heirs, and family and generals. Each General gets stats depending on how they act. Execute all the prisoners of war and they become dreadful but powerful. Enemy morale goes down, but so does income. If you have a nice general who releases prisoners, uses fair tactics and is nice on tax rates they become chivalrous. Your soldiers morale goes up, and so does income. Also theres a religion system. Game kicks ass.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 12:32:06 am
Quote from: Joker
I need to get back to my epic campaign with my Norman freebooters from Sicily. I'm at war with pretty much everyone and am/was the terror of the Mediterranean. Of course, nobody will give me peace because they can't get over how awesome Norman Knights are

Awesome. Sicily is a kickass faction, though the most annoying to play. The only real enemies you can fight are Moors (Pushovers.), and more italians. All of which have the same units. But if you hold all the seas in the game and launch a grand scale invasion into Spain, then move up from there into Europe you'll be unstoppable. And Norman Knights leading the way.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: schneereich on November 14, 2007, 08:14:41 am
how does this game compare with europa universalis iii?
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 14, 2007, 09:25:33 am
Makes me miss Rome: Total War.    Love that game.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 14, 2007, 10:57:38 am
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how does this game compare with europa universalis iii?

Another EU3 player! Anyway, M:TW2 has real time battles, but the campaign map is turn-based. Medieval's diplomacy is (much) less involved, the map only covers Europe and parts of Russia and the Middle East, there's a lot less factions, graphics are better, there's more building to do, there's no research, the game ends some time in the 1500's I think, and there's some elements of roleplay, in a way, in that you actually have to manage your dynasty, building up their traits, and the same goes for generals, though generals are much easier to come by.

Basically it's EU3 with pretty graphics, real time 3D battles, and a simplified, turn-based campaign mode in a shorter time frame. Oh, and it doesn't have that awesome Paradox support either
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Lord Doom on November 14, 2007, 03:21:13 pm
anyone know where i can get these games for free cause im a cheap whore?
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Mr_Cynic on November 14, 2007, 07:02:46 pm
Quote from: Flask
Is the game really that involved? Sounds cool.

Let me put it this way: this is the first time I've ever heard of the diplomacy in that game not being completely broken.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Untelligent on November 14, 2007, 07:10:28 pm
Did anyone else look at the title and think "MediEvil 2?"
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 07:13:10 pm
Cynic the 1.2 patch fixes 95% of diplomacy problems. And yes, this is the luckiest move ever in the game. Most of the time they're complete morons.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Mr_Cynic on November 14, 2007, 07:23:02 pm
I have the 1.2 patch.  The only improvement I found was that they don't demand $120,000 for a ceasefire when I'm seiging their last town, outnumbering them 3:1.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 07:36:50 pm
XD Ahh, good times. Good times. One time I took out England with 4000 troops. They were down to their last city and asked me to be their protectorate or I would be attacked. That was in the 1.1 patch though. They're a lot smarter for me in the 1.2 patch.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 14, 2007, 09:20:49 pm
Do you need a good graphics card to play?
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 14, 2007, 11:45:52 pm
What card do you have Kaiser? I have an x1600 pro for ATi. Joker plays with a 6600, I believe. My card is a bit weaker then a 7600 from Nvidia.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 14, 2007, 11:51:12 pm
Yeah, 6600GT. I desperately need an upgrade. Since you can handle World in Conflict you can handle M2TW - I run WiC at all low settings, but I can take M2TW on mostly medium with huge units.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 12:00:00 am
Since you have a job you should get another 1GB of RAM and a better card Joker. <_> You really need an upgrade. So do I.

Yeah, Medieval II isn't demanding. Turn off shadows and AA though. The shadows are often glitchy and more annoying then good, and though they add atmosphere they also destroy 10FPS for me.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 15, 2007, 12:08:32 am
I'm saving for a whole new computer. Fuck upgrades, just get the whole kit and caboodle together and better.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 12:12:05 am
Yeah. Any prebuilts you have in mind already? I could help you find some sweet deals if you want.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 15, 2007, 12:16:19 am
Not yet. I only have like, $400 in the bank so far...
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 12:18:13 am
$1000 should get you a kickass gaming comp. <_< But I don't think you're that serious of a graphics junkie right? $600 should get you a decent self built comp. $1000 will get you a decent prebuilt.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 15, 2007, 12:27:35 am
I'm not a graphics junkie, but if I'm gonna get a new computer, I'd like some eye candy.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 07:48:58 am
Core 2 Duo  -  $130 for CPU,  $95 for motherboard, $120 for 2 GB DDR2
8800GT  - $250
DVD+/-RW - $35
500GB Seagate ES (Enterprise - 25 - 50% faster than standard) - $150
Case - $85

Total Approx. :  $865 + S&H

Prices will vary, but those a standard approx prices today.  ( I build computers daily for a living.)  And it would be a very decent gaming Rig.    Notice: Does not include Windows, keyboard, mouse, or speakers.  Faster CPUs and more feature rich motherboards available.  For another $150 you could jump to a Quad Core.  For another $250  you could jump to the 8800 GTS.     Just so you have some prices in mind about what your goal is.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 15, 2007, 08:57:10 am
I have a keyboard, mouse, and monitor already, so those aren't a problem. Though I might get a laser mouse anyway, since they're dirt cheap. I'm thinking I'll save up $1,000 before getting a new computer. I don't think I'll splurge for an 8800 GTS, though I think I would keep the idea of upgrading to one, or whatever better may come out, in mind if I build a computer. And about quad cores, do they really offer any tangible benefit? Most games don't even utilize dual cores that well and those have been around for a while now.

Building a computer, I know, is cheaper, but it seems like a daunting task for somebody like me who's never done it before. This won't be for a few months now, though, so when I actually have the money I'll probably make a topic asking for help with it.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 09:18:07 am
Supreme Commander, Crysis, and UT3 I know of take advantage of multiple cores including Quad-Cores.  More games are in the works.   The Penryns due out in January are expected to be 35 - 100% faster than current gen Core 2 CPUs, so if you're saving up, I'd wait and get one of those when they come out.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 01:52:35 pm
You nubs. The 8800GT performs better then the GTX, and wipes the floor with the GTS. It is the best card on the market for that price, period.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...4&card2=475 (http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=544&card2=475)

Also destroys the GTX in benchmarks. Get this if you can Joker.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: schneereich on November 15, 2007, 02:02:41 pm
my parents just got a good deal on an hp computer at office depot. it was $400, no monitor (seriously who doesnt already have one) and no graphics card (meaning youre not paying for some crap x1300 that you'd upgrade anyway). it has 2gb ram, athlon x2 5000+, 320gb hdd, and a legal copy of vista (something i always overlook when i price self-built pcs). im not sure what the power supply is like though. it might not be able to handle a nice video card, but its not important b/c they dont need a video card anyway.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 15, 2007, 02:34:25 pm
My computer is pretty good. My mom is stupid and paid like 1600 bucks because it had a high-definition widescreen. I don't know what my G-card is. Do you know where I could find out somewhere on my computer? I play World in Conflict on the second lowest setting and it works good. At default it was pretty glitchy.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Joker on November 15, 2007, 02:37:36 pm
Go to the start menu, then look for a button that says "run". Then in the box type "dxdiag".

You can find out most of your hardware information there. Graphics card specifically is under "Display".
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 02:39:33 pm
A $400 HP is NOT going to a gaming machine make.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 15, 2007, 02:40:15 pm
I can't find "Run"

I'm using Windows Vista BTW.

NVM I think I found it. Don't call me a newb if this isn't it though.


NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 02:45:32 pm
Quote from: wethepeople
You nubs. The 8800GT performs better then the GTX, and wipes the floor with the GTS. It is the best card on the market for that price, period.

[a href=\"http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...4&card2=475\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...4&card2=475 (http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=544&card2=475)[/a]

Also destroys the GTX in benchmarks. Get this if you can Joker.


http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/gef...rmance_round_up (http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_8800_gt/page15.html#performance_round_up)

The GT is NOT faster than the GTX.  Though it IS the best performance/Price card out.   And that's the 512 MB version, which is around $300.

"In the end, Nvidia has taken its time, but offers an exceptional card with the GeForce 8800GT. For about $230 it nearly displays the power of a GeForce 8800GTX (under 3%) twice as expensive, with the only downside being a slightly lower memory capacity (512 MB instead of 768 MB) and a bandwidth 10% lower than that of a GeForce 8800GTS. However, in games, the latter is usually outperformed by 30% without filters (using the 320 MB version) by the GeForce 8800GT and the GTX is only 12% higher. We have to say that the transition to the 65 nm process meant the arrival of more than just a couple of G92 on a wafer. By the way, this chip boasts 754 million transistors. It's small, consumes less than a GeForce 8800GTS 320 MB, and the 8800GT is also quite silent despite its single slot cooling system."

Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 02:48:31 pm
Quote from: Kaiser
I can't find "Run"

I'm using Windows Vista BTW.

NVM I think I found it. Don't call me a newb if this isn't it though.


NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT


That's it... and a decent midrange older generation card, but not going to be able to keep up with the newer games.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 02:54:17 pm
8800GT is still the better deal. Only games like Crysis would actually show a difference, and only a graphics whore would buy the GTX over the GT. The GT is the best card on the market.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 15, 2007, 02:55:50 pm
So my card is like Ok but not great? What games should I stay away from then?
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 02:56:09 pm
Agreed on that.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 03:00:34 pm
Quote from: Kaiser
So my card is like Ok but not great? What games should I stay away from then?

BioShock, Crysis, Supreme Commander, UT3 would all benefit from a move to an 8 series videocard.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 15, 2007, 03:04:12 pm
Is UT3 Unreal Tournament 3? Cause I fucking want that game.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: eliminat on November 15, 2007, 03:06:45 pm
Yes Unreal Tournament 3.  Yours should play it, but the 8 series would help a LOT.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: wethepeople on November 15, 2007, 03:07:09 pm
UT3 is extremely well optimized, should work fine. I can run Crysis on medium at 1280*720 at 30FPS and I have a weaker card, that should be fine too.
Title: I pulled off the most daring, yet successful move in Medieval II.
Post by: Kaiser on November 15, 2007, 03:11:12 pm
I'll just read the bottom of the box for any games I want to buy, now that I found out what my card was I should be all good.