Random Insanity Alliance Forum, Mark V
Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: Liberal8989 on May 04, 2007, 05:03:42 pm
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I was just wondering what the member's of the RIA think about drugs.
What is your stance?
If for, against, or the use of some drugs over another state why.
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highly against drugs. i dont want anything to do with them unless prescribed by a doctor
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Weed, I am ok with as far as drugs go. But harder crap, I will not stand for. Especially seeing what it can do to a person via someone I knew doing them. *shakes head* Drugs like meth and E are evil.
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why are you totally against dester55
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When you take as many meds as I take, you don't need illegals.
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I think they should be legal. If you want to take them, go ahead. Not a big fan myself, though.
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you believe all drugs should be legal? why do you think that?
I'm not say that i don't agree with you Cheese because i do, but you should read this article.
http://www.gargaro.com/drugs.html (http://www.gargaro.com/drugs.html)
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Read it, seen all those arguments before.
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why are you totally against dester55
I'm in health right now and man, YOU DON"T KNOW, YOU DON"T KNOW
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If it isn't prescribed to you by a doctor, you shouldn't be on it, unless its self-stuff within reason, like Tylenol or cough drops. People who take drugs alter their reality and can in fact harm others by taking drugs, because of what they might do under the influence of the drug (drunk driving anyone?) Granted, if all drugs were legal, most of the druggies would die out, but there would be more later. So I am against any drug that hasn't been prescribed by a professional or that is meant to be self-administered.
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A little lesson that applies to a lot. If you have to hide it, or if the general toniclace says its bad, it is indeed bad.
But enough with the little sayings, I am opposed to drugs. Never tried them, never will. Last thing I need is an addiction in my head, and the last thing I need is to inhale smoke to make me feel better. No drugs for me.
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Liberal, that page quotes NO sources whatsoever.
Try this on for size: www.hempfiles.com
This page quotes sources, and for everyone's information, GEORGE WASHINGTON GREW AND SMOKED MARIJUANA.
The drug war has NEVER worked. Ever since drugs were illegalized, the usage of them has increased. We need to do the same thing that people did with cigarettes, and EDUCATE people. The use of Cigarettes has dropped what, 50%?
Watch this: http://leap.cc/Multimedia/LEAPpromo.php (http://leap.cc/Multimedia/LEAPpromo.php)
My stance , now, is that marijuana should be legalized, and our citizens need to be educated. However, I do not believe that marijuana usage should ever be used in a public place, NO MATTER WHAT.
All other drugs should remain completely illegal.
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If it isn't prescribed to you by a doctor, you shouldn't be on it, unless its self-stuff within reason, like Tylenol or cough drops. People who take drugs alter their reality and can in fact harm others by taking drugs, because of what they might do under the influence of the drug (drunk driving anyone?) Granted, if all drugs were legal, most of the druggies would die out, but there would be more later. So I am against any drug that hasn't been prescribed by a professional or that is meant to be self-administered.
People die every year from taking Tylenol and over the counter medicines, but there has NEVER been a recorded death due to Marijuana.
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Uh Shy, Is It warm in your house of lies?
Marijuania has more carcigions (i think i spelled that wrong) Than cigarettes. Its possible that all smoke related deaths could have been Weed.
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Uh Shy, Is It warm in your house of lies?
Marijuania has more carcigions (i think i spelled that wrong) Than cigarettes. Its possible that all smoke related deaths could have been Weed.
Read the links I gave, please, and look it up. No one has ever died from smoking marijuana. You would have to smoke nearly fourteen hundred pounds of weed in order to kill yourself.
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people may not ODed on marijuana but they are many records of people driving with weed in their system and causing accidents. Weed messes with your head. Makes you hallucinate(spelled that wrong)It also messes with the chemical in your brain, slowing your reaction time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Imm..._of_consumption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Immediate_effects_of_consumption)
Don't give me BS about Wiki being illigetimate, because they are several sources on there.
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I am againest illegal Drug use. All drugs (including nicotine, Caffiene and Alcohol) Are addictive All of them, even weed can be. Odds are eventually they will kill you, in a more painful and longer way then you'd otherwise die. Quite a few members of my family have died do to Drugs. There are no safe addictive drugs.]
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I believe all currently illegal drugs should be legalized and regulated like Cigarettes. If you make it so people can buy crack at Wal-mart you put the Gun-welding drug dealers out of business and take the money away from the Colombian Drug cartels. Plus you get something new to tax.
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I am completely for marijuana. As for other drugs, I have nothing against has, X, or anything low key. I'm against crack and heroin, just because crack addicts and needles are disgusting. I don't however any of them should be legalized, just because the only reason it possibly would be is for the government to make more money, and weed being illegal really doesnt make it that much more difficult to obtain.
people may not ODed on marijuana but they are many records of people driving with weed in their system and causing accidents. Weed messes with your head. Makes you hallucinate(spelled that wrong)It also messes with the chemical in your brain, slowing your reaction time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Imm..._of_consumption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Immediate_effects_of_consumption)
Don't give me BS about Wiki being illigetimate, because they are several sources on there.
Weed isnt a hallucinogen, its a depressant, it doesnt make you see shit, it makes you tired/drowsy, exactly like the wiki page you quoted says.
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people may not ODed on marijuana but they are many records of people driving with weed in their system and causing accidents. Weed messes with your head. Makes you hallucinate(spelled that wrong)It also messes with the chemical in your brain, slowing your reaction time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Imm..._of_consumption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana#Immediate_effects_of_consumption)
Don't give me BS about Wiki being illigetimate, because they are several sources on there.
And Alchohol does the same thing. In fact, people are probably less likely to drive while high becuase of its effects. That's from one of my sources as well.
What's your point? You're really not holding much water here...
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Read the article. And whether or not alchohol is doing this is irrelevant. Yes there has not been ever been a record of Weed overdose. its the secondary effects that weed does to you is what kills.
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Read the article. And whether or not alchohol is doing this is irrelevant. Yes there has not been ever been a record of Weed overdose. its the secondary effects that weed does to you is what kills.
It does not make you halucinate.
If it's smoked in a pipe, instead of in shitty ass papper that a lot of people use, it's a lot better for you.
It's also not near as bad as cigaretts.
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Read the article. And whether or not alchohol is doing this is irrelevant. Yes there has not been ever been a record of Weed overdose. its the secondary effects that weed does to you is what kills.
What secondary effects? The high?
More people die from cigarettes than from ALCHOHOL AND WEED combined!
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I'm not saying its bad for you, will kill you, etc. I don't disrespect or hate on anyone that smokes, but its simply not for me. I don't want to smoke, I don't have intentions of getting addicted to anything. <_> No thanks, basically. If any of you do smoke, fine. I just never will.
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I hate when people ask me to, but I respect their use of weed. Harder drugs, hell no..I feel no respect for them. I have even less respect for those who peddle that crap to kids.
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If I had all of my health notes with me about drugs, I would tell you guys all you need to know about how bad drugs are. all i really remember is that crystal meth is one of the most dangerous drugs out there right now with one of the highest killing rate from it.
when Monday comes around, I'll bring home my notes about narcotics, stimulants, alcohol, hallucinogens, and date recruit drugs. then I will type it all down for your knowledge.
also when my health teacher was in collage, she smoke cat nip as a bet and won $50 dollars
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WTF, catnip? Even I know that is not for human consumption. Its a weed for kitties! Which I don't exactly agree with giving to cats after seeing an ex's cat go bonkers off of it, it went from psycho cat to Ultimate psycho cat in less then 30 seconds after it eating it.
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WTF, catnip? Even I know that is not for human consumption. Its a weed for kitties! Which I don't exactly agree with giving to cats after seeing an ex's cat go bonkers off of it, it went from psycho cat to Ultimate psycho cat in less then 30 seconds after it eating it.
my cat gets all drunk like and pukes when she eats catnip, it's very funny to watch.
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Hugs not drugs
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You're not actually supposed to feed cats catnip...
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Well then whats the point of Catnip?
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but thay eat it any way" bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbnn} v w2qw "cat on catnip on keys
its like geting a 3 year old not to flush stuff down the craper like my car KEYS you tell them not too and thay do it any way
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Well then whats the point of Catnip?
The smell is what does things to them...well, I suppose that eating it will do stuff to, but they're not supposed to eat it.
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Well then whats the point of Catnip?
The smell is what does things to them...well, I suppose that eating it will do stuff to, but they're not supposed to eat it.
The ex fed the nip by way of just spreading it out on a flat surface like the floor, cat would eat it, and sniff it...then roll around in it. Mind you...the cat already had issues.
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Cat toys can contain catnip and some cats love to play with them while others are not interested. Cat owners do not need to worry about allowing their cats access to catnip because there are, for the most part, no negative side effects to doing so. However, some cats become overly excited when exposed to catnip, so aging or obese cats with heart troubles should be kept away from it. A diabetic cat can also experience complications from catnip
There you have it.
Nepeta cataria is weakly psychoactive, variably eliciting sedation, euphoria, and, in higher doses, nausea. Although its effect is very mild, catnip may be used as a substitute for marijuana, often in combination with damiana.
A study conducted at Iowa State University suggests that pure nepetalactone, a constituent of the essential oil of N. cataria, may be 10 times as effective at repelling mosquitos as the common repellent, DEET. Catnip had been long recognized as a good companion plant, in that it appeared to repel pest insects, and this study offers insight into the phenomenon.
Catnip Mosquito Spray FTW.
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WE'RE IN YUR HOUSE
(http://www.cannabis-clubs.eu/Portals/0/Cannabis%20Motherplants%20-%20Indoor.JPG)
TAKNG YUR DRUGZ
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When you take as many meds as I take, you don't need illegals.
I have to agree with you there
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WE'RE IN YUR HOUSE
(http://www.cannabis-clubs.eu/Portals/0/Cannabis%20Motherplants%20-%20Indoor.JPG)
TAKNG YUR DRUGZ
Shhhhhhh....don't tell.
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I have not, and probably never will take any illegal drugs. Hell, I don't even drink (when I'm in Germnay. Here, it's illegal and I [usually] stay away from doing anything illegal). I did, however, date a girl who smokes pot. I really don't have a problem with it. In fact, it would probably be safer than most things (see: alcohol) if it was legalized and made legitimate. As it is, you can get some messed up crap laced in with it. (Speaking from the girl's personal experience, not my own).
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Weed, I am ok with as far as drugs go. But harder crap, I will not stand for. Especially seeing what it can do to a person via someone I knew doing them. *shakes head* Drugs like meth and E are evil.
Agree'd but even weed you have to watch sometimes with some people who cant control themselves.
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Alcohol is more hype then anything.
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i am completely against any kinda drugs that are not given to u by a doc i just think that it is stupid to even try them but that is just my opinion
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WE'RE IN YUR HOUSE
(http://www.cannabis-clubs.eu/Portals/0/Cannabis%20Motherplants%20-%20Indoor.JPG)
TAKNG YUR DRUGZ
Shhhhhhh....don't tell.
HEY!!! GET THE HELL AWAY FROM MY DRUGZ!!!!
*starts aiming shot gun*
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Weed is a weird drug to classify, which is one of the main reasons its federally illegal (FDA). It's actually a mild stimulant, depressant, and psychoactive hallucinagen all rolled up in one. It doesn't cause visual hallucinations (repeatably, there is sometimes no accounting for a potheads imagination), but it can cause one to have a certain sense of well being that really shouldn't be there in todays farked up society. Some people shouldn't smoke weed, but most people who have something against it without ever having tried it should definitely smoke a joint.
As far as people saying it is addictive, here's the skinny: Marijuana is *not* physically addictive, at all. Marijuana *can* be the focus of a *pre-existing* addictive personality. To say that it is physically or psychologically addictive without qualification is not scientific.
As far as the carcinogens contained in weed: The main carcinogen (cancer-causing chemical) in marijuana is a tar called benzopyrene. It is the main carcinogenic tar in both tobacco and marijuana, and the concentration is about three to six times higher in marijuana than tobacco. That being said, one must consider the total amount used in order to determine a statistically significant theory regarding the intake of the carcinogens. One cigarette contains about 1.5 grams of tobacco. 1.5 grams of good greenbud will get 6 hardcore stoners high for 3-4 hours 3 times (if you roll 0.5g of weed in a blunt). Thats one hardcore stoner high for 54 - 72 hours. Thats 2-3 days. One regular tobacco smoker smokes between 10-30 cigarettes containing 1.5 grams per day. All of that being said, benzopyrene is probably the most dangerous compound found in marijuana, and definitely the one with the highest volume. Meanwhile tobacco cigarettes contain literally hundreds of other horrifically more dangerous compounds than marijuana. I am definitely not saying that the carcinogens in weed or cigarettes are good for you, but even some tobacco smokers live to be 100 years old. Saying that weed is bad for you because it contains carcinogens and likening it to cigarettes just doesn't add up.
There has never been an actual published scientific paper that says that smoking marijuana has any long term negative side effects*edit: other than the carcinogenic effects of the smoke*. Several papers were published in pseudo-scientific magazines in the mid 80's to the mid 90's which claim all sorts of negative effects of marijuana (seriously, from brain damage to birth defects), but these papers can usually be traced back to a series of laboratory procedures approved by the reagan and bush cabinets which were funded by the federal government under one of the war on drugs initiatives.
LSD, psilocybe mushrooms, and peyote are all relatively harmless in a physical sense, but use for some people has caused long term mental problems. These problems are usually linked with pre-existing psychological problems, but at all times should be handled with education and extreme caution.
Pretty much all other drugs are highly toxic and cause cell death in the brain*edit: as well as serious physical and psychological dependancy*. Stay away.
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...so...you're not against weed right?
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Not when used by responsible adults or minors with parental/adult supervision and guidance.
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weed isnt even a drug!
weed is a part of a plant in its natural state
drugs are bad because we manipulate them to be.
drugs are bad cuz we made them that way
Coke andine as an example, we manipulate the Coke and plant that is mostly used for medical purposes and then people made it into the powder form and thats why its addicting.
also why the crackhead girl down my street will give me secks for muneys
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weed isnt even a drug!
weed is a part of a plant in its natural state
drugs are bad because we manipulate them to be.
drugs are bad cuz we made them that way
Coke andine as an example, we manipulate the Coke and plant that is mostly used for medical purposes and then people made it into the powder form and thats why its addicting.
also why the crackhead girl down my street will give me secks for muneys
You're a moron.
Look up the definition for drug.
Look up the effects of chewing Coke and leaves (especially the addictive properties of such).
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hey, hey, let's keep this debate on respectful terms.
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Yeah, stating falsehoods as truth is extremely disrespectful of the time and effort I have spent educating myself. Please discontinue your direspect.
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I'm talking to you, Perc.
This is pretty sad. These topics were on pretty respectful terms until you came in here.
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You keep using that word. You should not use that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Like I said, if the truth hurts, look to yourself.
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personally: drugs+me= bad!! i'm clumsy as it is, not to mention clueless and at times insane, i feel if i took drugs, i'd probably trip over my shoelace and die from bleeding and a crack in the skull.
i also don't like seeing other people do it, 'cause they are hurting themselves internally and physcologically. i don't want people to hurt themselves (even if they don't feel the pain)
also on a personal note: i want to have kids when i'm older (and when i'm ready,) and i don't want anything that i do to myself (drinking, smoking, eating unhealthy foods, ect.) to hurt or damage them in any way. i'm afraid i'll or they'll become addicted to drugs/smoking.
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*scrolls up* let's see what everyone else's opinons are...
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Totally against all drugs.
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It's all good, as long as you have the will power not to become addicted. I'm TOTALLY against E, tonic, meth, etc. because that is the shit that ruins lives. Pot ain't all that bad.
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i personally would never do any drugs but hey if u wanna by all means its ur life not mine
but cigarettes are gross on all levels
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i personally would never do any drugs but hey if u wanna by all means its ur life not mine
but cigarettes are gross on all levels
*nods* yep, cigarettes=gross. i really don't like the smell of smoke, it makes it hard to breathe
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totally they are pretty unbearable they make smokers and there stuff smell bad too its nasty
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cigarettes are the reason my Grandma died (well techincally it just made her have heart disease, but that resulted in a heart attack which killed her) that's why i'm promising myself that i'll never smoke. i don't want to have my kids(when i have them, note: i don't have kids now, but i want them once i'm married ), or have my family see me dead to soon. i don't want anyone to be in pain or to be suffering because of a choice i made.
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totally agree ace w/ everyting but the kida part dont want them unless their adopted
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(haha...oh the irony!! i just realized i'm thinking about having kids(in the future), but i haven't even had a boyfriend yet!!*sweatdrop* )