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Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 12:29:26 am
worst. myspace. quote. ever.

"Only remember the past and the future, but not the present, as it's already happened..."

1) How can you remember the future? PARADOX!
2) Why has the PRESENT (which means now) already happened?
3) If your reason for not remembering the present is because it's already happened, why would you want to remember the past? Hasn't it already happened?

*brain asplode*
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taken from RI


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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Ganon5 on November 07, 2007, 12:44:45 am
UUA!
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Queue1 on November 07, 2007, 12:45:07 am
They probably got hold of some bad acid
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Post by: Signothorn on November 07, 2007, 12:47:54 am
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6717/paradocs9fdbd4oq8.jpg)
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 12:51:20 am
thats a paradox how bout this one:
a bicycle owners manual suggests that children should not ride at night OR after dusk
aren't those the same thing?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 01:03:59 am
or are they?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:06:20 am
who knows yours is a better one anyways lol
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 01:08:07 am
what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:12:02 am
Quote from: Crunka
what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?
ouch brain hurt
why are carrots oranger than oranges?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:15:17 am
why is bread square and sandwich meat round?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Flask on November 07, 2007, 01:18:43 am
Quote from: Crunka
what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?

Juggernaut vs. The Blob.

Who wins? Nobody knows.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:21:53 am
heres a paradox: why are we talking bout paradoxs(or paradoxi not sure) so late at night?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 01:23:39 am
because at night i get really creative/emotional/intelligent/philosophical/etc.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 01:26:18 am
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what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?


one response to this paradox is that if a force is irresistible, then by definition there is no truly immovable object; conversely, if an immovable object were to exist, then no force could be defined as being truly irresistible.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:26:58 am
Quote from: Crunka
because at night i get really creative/emotional/intelligent/philosophical/etc.
don't we all lol personally i'm trying to figure out the paradox of y waffle taste so f***ing good
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Post by: Flask on November 07, 2007, 01:35:06 am
Crunka, did you just answer your own question through a quote?
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Post by: Flask on November 07, 2007, 01:36:28 am
Also, Tomb, none of your questions are really paradoxes....just weird stuff without common sense.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:39:58 am
Quote from: Flask
Also, Tomb, none of your questions are really paradoxes....just weird stuff without common sense.
of course  i can't think of any real paradoxs.... its random insane stuff its not suppose to have common sense
da only time i make sense is when i'm drunk
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 01:46:46 am
lol, yeah.


well, no one tried to answer it. however i still haven't answered it, i can't seem to make any progress.


GRR! this is going to drive me insane!
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 01:49:30 am
if the universe is infinite and it is fair to say we are not alone due to the fact that there are an infinite number of inhabitable worlds like earth then the toniculation of the universe would also be infinite
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 02:01:36 am
well, the universe is vast and infinite and there are high estimates of probability of sentient alien life, however, there is no evidence of it.

that is another paradox (i hate them)
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 02:04:57 am
yup thats one of my favorites tho heres another
the master of defense can never beat the master of offense and the master of offense can never beat the master of defense
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Ganon5 on November 07, 2007, 02:05:32 am
That's not really a paradox. But it would make sense that if the universe is infinite and there is a chance (no matter how tiny) of sentient life, then it must exist.

Now there's just the whole 'infinity' concept to wrap our heads around...

(@ Crunka's last post)
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 02:05:52 am
its actually a japanese samuri proverb but it works
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 02:07:09 am
Quote from: ganon5
That's not really a paradox. But it would make sense that if the universe is infinite and there is a chance (no matter how tiny) of sentient life, then it must exist.

Now there's just the whole 'infinity' concept to wrap our heads around...

(@ Crunka's last post)
true but that tiny percent is then multiplied by infinity therefore making it also infinity
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 02:18:32 am
it is considered a paradox....it's name is Fermi Paradox.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 02:31:32 am
ok this isn't really a paradox but it is an interesting question
why do they sterilize the area and needle used for a lethal injection? kinda pointless ya think?
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Lamentations on November 07, 2007, 03:03:26 am
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what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?

Why do paradoxes exist for things that don't exist :/ It is like trying to use logic on something that is not founded on logic.

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But it would make sense that if the universe is infinite and there is a chance (no matter how tiny) of sentient life, then it must exist.

And indeed if time is infinite then in fact anything is possible on such a timeline. Also on the time scale thing there must eventually be more places in time where the conditions for new life are met. This ignores the rules of entropy but, pah, minor details.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: GRX Dragon on November 07, 2007, 03:59:26 am
Quote from: Crunka
worst. myspace. quote. ever.

"Only remember the past and the future, but not the present, as it's already happened..."

1) How can you remember the future? PARADOX!
2) Why has the PRESENT (which means now) already happened?
3) If your reason for not remembering the present is because it's already happened, why would you want to remember the past? Hasn't it already happened?

*brain asplode*
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taken from RI


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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!

To remember the future is to know why you fight for, the present has already happened for it is what we fight. Remember not the past except as a key to the future.

Edit: I read that wrong last night, thought it was a similar question. The real answer is pretty close however.


We must remember the future, so that we may have the unwillingness to lose a fight.
We must forget the present, so that we can nullify all pain unto us.
We must remember the past, so that we can never forget the pains brought unto us from the enemy we seek the destruction thereof.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: GRX Dragon on November 07, 2007, 10:53:16 am
Quote from: Crunka
what would happen if an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?

Don't mean to double-post, but I didn't get a chance to answer this last night, went to sleep beforehand.

Answer: the unstoppable force will simply bounce off an immovable object. Just because you can't stop something doesn't mean you can't bounce it off.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Commisar Gaunt on November 07, 2007, 03:03:49 pm
The unstoppable force will merely be diverted... good idea
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Post by: Crunka on November 07, 2007, 06:08:43 pm
hmm...that sounds like a good theory...
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Untelligent on November 07, 2007, 08:32:27 pm
On the subject of the population of the Universe being infinite...
To quote from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:


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4. POPULATION: None.

It is know that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average poplation of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

tl;dr: Owned.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 07, 2007, 10:24:13 pm
Quote from: Untelligent
On the subject of the population of the Universe being infinite...
To quote from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:


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4. POPULATION: None.

It is know that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average poplation of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

tl;dr: Owned.
damn he found where i got my paradox lol but i researched it after reading the books and da whole zero thing is crap but yea
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Lamentations on November 08, 2007, 03:26:57 am
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average toniclation of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the toniculation of the whole Universe is also zero

but by definition, 'average' shows this to be fallacious.
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Post by: Lord Doom on November 08, 2007, 01:35:36 pm
Quote from: Untelligent
On the subject of the population of the Universe being infinite...
To quote from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:


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4. POPULATION: None.

It is know that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average poplation of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

tl;dr: Owned.
average toniculation is average.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Prince Tomb on November 08, 2007, 01:39:17 pm
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average toniclation of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the toniculation of the whole Universe is also zero

but by definition, 'average' shows this to be fallacious.
dude don't diss the HitcherHiker's Guide to the Galaxy it is all knowing like Santa Claus and Vintus    
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Crunka on November 08, 2007, 09:59:59 pm
if the irresistible object bounces of the immovable one, it still stops, even if it's by a millisecond.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: GRX Dragon on November 09, 2007, 03:53:49 am
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if the irresistible object bounces of the immovable one, it still stops, even if it's by a millisecond.

Untrue. I give you an example of the Apollo missions in space. In Apollo 13, they bounced off the moon not even by hitting it but by going around and thrusting into the gravity field. I also give you the theory used in the Lost in Space movie: theoretically, if an irrestible object is going at a high-enough speed, when it hits the immovable object (which is the sun), the gravitational magnetic field will cause the irresistible object to warp to another area in space. This is also a similar theory to what we use for creating power from black holes (we being the American/English alliance of scientists, not including myself mind you).

I also give you another example that even in space, something normally immovable is logically movable due to it's very own gravitational field. But even if that were not so, we have two magnets in our hands. The immovable magnet which one hand is holding on to does not move, however the irresistible magnet will find itself unresisting to the immovable magnet.


Finally, the paradox originally given has to do with an unstoppable force and an immovable object, not an irresistible object. I admit I don't entirely know how it goes in quantum physics, however I do know how to think outside of the box, or at least think above the Earth anyways. Also, remember, just because our language considers something immovable-doesn't mean it is immovable in the universe.

Edit: I will try to give the proper theory on the latest paradox by tomorrow (or today? lol) since I'm going to bed now.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Grand Poobah Marx on November 09, 2007, 07:31:30 am
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if the irresistible object bounces of the immovable one, it still stops, even if it's by a millisecond.

Not so.  Newton's 3rd Law of motion.

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III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

It would, at the exact same speed, bounce off at a perfect reflection from the immovable surface, this is discounting friction and air resistance.
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Post by: Delta1212 on November 09, 2007, 09:10:22 am
Here's an infinity paradox.

If you have an infinitely long line, any point you choose will be the midpoint, as the length of the line to either side will exactly equal the length of the other side. Of couse, if you were to cut, say, three feet off of one of the halves, it would still make up exactly half of the line as it would still equal the legth of the other side. But now the two ends no longer reach each other.

In other words, take an infinite line, and cut it in half. Remove a a section from one of the halves so they no longer reach. Each one is still exactly the same length (infinity). This means you still have the same total length, but the two sides no longer reach each other.
Title: dear RIA: i bring you...a paradox!
Post by: Grand Poobah Marx on November 09, 2007, 09:17:07 am
Noice!
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Post by: Lamentations on November 09, 2007, 10:14:12 pm
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Each one is still exactly the same length (infinity).

But isn't saying this fallacious anyway, seeing as infinity is not an exact thing :/ It is more arbitrary, like you can't divide infinity by something.