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« on: May 20, 2007, 02:53:08 pm »
People who accept as fact something which has no rational basis are crazy. The clinical definition of insanity is repetition of behavior while expecting different results. This means that if you pray without result more than once, you are clinically insane. While not clinically insane, the atheist is nonetheless (to my mind) equally insane to the 'person of faith.' Seriously, who the hell are you people to say - for sure, that there is or is not a god?
Spirituality is one tool (of many) for the ignorant to explain unexplained phenomena. While this in and of itself does not denote insanity, there are many other tools available to modern mankind with which to explain the universe around us. Science for instance, is an extremely valuable tool because for the most part it can be verified through testing by whoever has the resources and the know-how. Old books are a tool which allow modern people to study what people in the past thought. Using old books as empirical evidence is pseudo-science. To be sure, I am speaking mainly of the christian bible, the quran, the gospels, the tora, and other jewish texts. I am not saying there is *no* truth in these texts, which is shown by various treasure hunters who have in fact unearthed artifacts from places to which they were directed by ancient writings. However, to use these texts as some kind of evidence of the existance of one or more gods is totally ludicrous.
Why don't you people stop and think?
The only way to have a concept of god is to let go of your need for sureness. I do not believe in god, nor do I believe in the non-existance of god. If you educate yourselves (via lectures from intellectuals or books other than propaganda), you will come to find that the various old texts claiming a gensis myth contain exactly that: a myth. The doppler effect shows us the approximate age of the universe. The fossil record shows us the timeline of life on this planet. Many people think "dinosaurs" when the word fossil is evoked, but as a biotechnology major, I am educated on the evolution of bacteria millions of years before any 'higher' forms of life existed. There is evidence written in stone which is much older and much more empirical than any dusty book you religious types can produce.
I feel that I have not yet fully expressed my point. I definitely do not want to leave atheists out of my tirade, for they are equally closed-minded and full of their own egos. For you people who claim the non-existance of god as fact (all atheists), please explain what caused the initial spark. Case closed. I do want to say however, that at least athiests for the most part do not try and spread their drivel to the ears of others. At least atheists do not belong to an organization responsible for *THE WORST* atrocities against mankind.
I really hate to have to break this shit down to you uneducated victims of cultural brainwashing, but as I have chosen this alliance as my home, I feel it is my responsibility. To those who claim that the leaders of the crusades etc. were not christian, I must say that you're full of hoolabaloo. It's as if you were neo-nazis, who still believe in the aryan race, but do not support hitler-esque ethnic cleansing, and say that hitler wasn't a real nazi. The people who led the crusades, the spanish inquisition, the witch-hunts.. THEY WERE IN FACT CHRISTIAN, WHO FOLLOWED ALL OF THE SAME STRUCTURES OF RULES THAT YOU DO NOW. You belong to a cult which has history of extreme racial violence. When talking to an educated person, you cannot divorce yourself from these facts. This is why christians are not taken seriously by the educated.
All of that being said, I believe that there may in fact have been a jesus, a mohammed, a siddhartha, etc. They were most likely well-spoken individuals with very strong feelings. They were able to convey messages, which others wrote down because the messages were good. It is plain as day that many of the things these MEN said were good. However, as soon as those with power and influence started meddling with the messages (religion, any), instantly the messages were corrupted.
Religion is a tool of the powerful to keep the masses tired and thusly ignorant and non-violent.
Think about it. If john doe thinks there is a heaven awaiting him if he leads a good life, he will work harder - waking up earlier and working longer into the twilight. He will 'put in his dues,' so that he will be accepted into an eternity of happiness. This tactic is little more advanced than the carrot on a stick which makes the donkey walk further than he otherwise could/would. As soon as word of the effectiveness of this tactic spread, religion was invited into nearly every major empire in the world. Look it up, you can see the spread of religion is faster than any other movement. It was changed and refined, with the more successful empires clinging to a certain doctrine as if it was part of the original culture. History (even your bible, if looked at from a different point of view) shows us these facts with unarguable certainty. The kings of the land embraced religion wholeheartedly, not because of any belief in the dogmas, but because the results in production and refinement of resources and the lower levels of crime were immediate and astonishing. People developed stronger communities and had better lives. On the surface this seems like a great thing for everyone, but it is based on falsehoods and lies, and the machinations of the powerful. These people, now tired from working more and happy because such work would lead them to the afterlife, stopped putting so much emphasis on what was happening around them. They simply did not have time to care about the infidels. The higher tax influx allowed the leaders of the day more resources with which to pay for armies to wage war in foreign lands. This increase in funds was of course spun to reflect some god's acceptance and encouragement, and so many otherwise non-judgemental young men went to war to kill many people who's skin was a different color.
All in the name of god.
I could go on and on.