Pterrydactylhis, who locked the follow up to About Islam? Mongoloid Mohammedan was the thread. I should have been cleared on this - my mistake.
Llama, I am not making this post about me, you are. This is about freedom of speech, and reasonable limitations on them. In response to your comments:
- I have no problem with authority when I understand it - I don't know anyone who enjoys arbitrary rule. No one at all.
- We can discuss this stuff without the benefit of personal experience, but it would be less interesting. Feel free to keep your personal stories to yourself, but I have experienced more of certain kinds of activities than the majority of people ever will on their whole lives, and some of them are relevant to the discussion & context.
- I don't think we need to intellectualize everything, but people don't need to take things personally either. It is possible to have fun on a forum, and guide discussions instead of beating people down Syrian style...
- I didn't say Mia is lying, just that she encourages the trolling. She has done so for a long time. I really don't think this is deniable.
- I am indeed engaging in moral acrobatics, and am quite fit. It is not to escape personal responsibility however.
- 7% of communication is in the words. 38% is tone, and 55% is body language. You are right that the written form has its limitations, all the more reason to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.
- Maybe Mia should have gone about this a different way and instead of reading these posts, should take some responsibility of her own.
- As indicated, if Mia left a subject that went the wrong way, all trolls backed off... Have a look at the record - I think there is only one exception where Leo, Gangs and myself started trolling ourselves like wild dogs who didn't realize the female had left.
- I don't care if you don't laugh at my jokes. I know I am funny. My mom told me so.
- I have no problem with people taking offence, and continue to engage them as long as they want to. I have a problem with being told to shut up. Again, I don't know anyone who feels differently, and I have lived in 8 cities on 3 continents.
- A simpler solution is as I mentioned, to occasionally remind the less mature members that if they get upset, it really is just joking around. Unless it is not, in which case it is a problem.
- I did not sexually harass HR, so if you want to get logical on my ass, don't confuse yourself.
- I have appointed myself as a voice within the troll community, not its leader.
- I am sure you have been aware of a lot of things much longer then I have, grandpa. I appreciate the exchange so I can learn and grow.
- Trolling Mia is easy, but you have been a tough nut to crack, until now.
- Gangs has been on this site longer than I have, and this is the first forum I have ever participated in. He has a mind of his own.
You posted a sex-with-Mia topic that started off with a video of a three-legged horse failing to mount a mare. Get off your low-horse.
Brian, even representative democracies have laws. I would be honoured to be mentioned in the ConstRItution, but that won't solve the issue at hand. My initial proposition is at least more effective in defusing an issue instead of turning it into a game of submission. So if we can return to the first proposal before putting another on the table, what would you add, take away, or modify to the original text?
- If someone gets upset and whines to the moderator, the offender can have a chance to tell the person in the same post, that they are just kidding, and both parties can continue where they left off.
- Maybe more than one such reminder would be required as the troll mine is dug, but at least some form of politesse and reassurance is there.
- If the offender does not make such a statement, or does so insincerely, then the problem is serious, and should be addressed.
- Innocent until proven guilty, but at least the whiners don't rule the roost.
Back to the topic, this all comes down to freedom of speech, or what restrictions should be placed on it, and whether this can be framed in a reasonable and effective law.