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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2007, 09:52:10 am »
i am completely against any kinda drugs that are not given to u by a doc i just think that it is stupid to even try them but that is just my opinion
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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2007, 10:38:12 am »
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2007, 12:21:03 am »
Weed is a weird drug to classify, which is one of the main reasons its federally illegal (FDA).  It's actually a mild stimulant, depressant, and psychoactive hallucinagen all rolled up in one.  It doesn't cause visual hallucinations (repeatably, there is sometimes no accounting for a potheads imagination), but it can cause one to have a certain sense of well being that really shouldn't be there in todays farked up society.  Some people shouldn't smoke weed, but most people who have something against it without ever having tried it should definitely smoke a joint.

As far as people saying it is addictive, here's the skinny:  Marijuana is *not* physically addictive, at all.  Marijuana *can* be the focus of a *pre-existing* addictive personality.  To say that it is physically or psychologically addictive without qualification is not scientific.

As far as the carcinogens contained in weed:  The main carcinogen (cancer-causing chemical) in marijuana is a tar called benzopyrene.  It is the main carcinogenic tar in both tobacco and marijuana, and the concentration is about three to six times higher in marijuana than tobacco.  That being said, one must consider the total amount used in order to determine a statistically significant theory regarding the intake of the carcinogens.  One cigarette contains about 1.5 grams of tobacco.  1.5 grams of good greenbud will get 6 hardcore stoners high for 3-4 hours 3 times (if you roll 0.5g of weed in a blunt).  Thats one hardcore stoner high for 54 - 72 hours.  Thats 2-3 days.  One regular tobacco smoker smokes between 10-30 cigarettes containing 1.5 grams per day.  All of that being said, benzopyrene is probably the most dangerous compound found in marijuana, and definitely the one with the highest volume.  Meanwhile tobacco cigarettes contain literally hundreds of other horrifically more dangerous compounds than marijuana.  I am definitely not saying that the carcinogens in weed or cigarettes are good for you, but even some tobacco smokers live to be 100 years old.  Saying that weed is bad for you because it contains carcinogens and likening it to cigarettes just doesn't add up.

There has never been an actual published scientific paper that says that smoking marijuana has any long term negative side effects*edit: other than the carcinogenic effects of the smoke*.  Several papers were published in pseudo-scientific magazines in the mid 80's to the mid 90's which claim all sorts of negative effects of marijuana (seriously, from brain damage to birth defects), but these papers can usually be traced back to a series of laboratory procedures approved by the reagan and bush cabinets which were funded by the federal government under one of the war on drugs initiatives.

LSD, psilocybe mushrooms, and peyote are all relatively harmless in a physical sense, but use for some people has caused long term mental problems.  These problems are usually linked with pre-existing psychological problems, but at all times should be handled with education and extreme caution.

Pretty much all other drugs are highly toxic and cause cell death in the brain*edit: as well as serious physical and psychological dependancy*.  Stay away.
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2007, 11:15:10 am »
...so...you're not against weed right?



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« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2007, 02:00:29 pm »
Not when used by responsible adults or minors with parental/adult supervision and guidance.
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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2007, 01:29:11 am »
weed isnt even a drug!
weed is a part of a plant in its natural state

drugs are bad because we manipulate them to be.
drugs are bad cuz we made them that way
Coke andine as an example, we manipulate the Coke and plant that is mostly used for medical purposes and then people made it into the powder form and thats why its addicting.

also why the crackhead girl down my street will give me secks for muneys
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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2007, 03:12:22 pm »
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weed isnt even a drug!
weed is a part of a plant in its natural state

drugs are bad because we manipulate them to be.
drugs are bad cuz we made them that way
Coke andine as an example, we manipulate the Coke and plant that is mostly used for medical purposes and then people made it into the powder form and thats why its addicting.

also why the crackhead girl down my street will give me secks for muneys

You're a moron.

Look up the definition for drug.
Look up the effects of chewing Coke and leaves (especially the addictive properties of such).
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2007, 05:05:11 pm »
hey, hey, let's keep this debate on respectful terms.
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2007, 05:40:26 pm »
Yeah, stating falsehoods as truth is extremely disrespectful of the time and effort I have spent educating myself.  Please discontinue your direspect.
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.  Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.  And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.  And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
-Ezekiel 25:17

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2007, 05:43:21 pm »
I'm talking to you, Perc.

This is pretty sad. These topics were on pretty respectful terms until you came in here.
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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2007, 05:45:52 pm »
You keep using that word.  You should not use that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

Like I said, if the truth hurts, look to yourself.
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.  Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.  And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.  And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
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« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2007, 09:50:18 pm »
personally: drugs+me= bad!! i'm clumsy as it is, not to mention clueless and at times insane, i feel if i took drugs, i'd probably trip over my shoelace and die from bleeding and a crack in the skull.

i also don't like seeing other people do it, 'cause they are hurting themselves internally and physcologically. i don't want people to hurt themselves (even if they don't feel the pain)

also on a personal note: i want to have kids when i'm older (and when i'm ready,) and i don't want anything that i do to myself (drinking, smoking, eating unhealthy foods, ect.) to hurt or damage them in any way. i'm afraid i'll or they'll become addicted to drugs/smoking.
 
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« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2007, 09:54:53 pm »
*scrolls up*  let's see what everyone else's opinons are...
 
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« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2007, 09:58:59 pm »
Totally against all drugs.

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« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2007, 10:42:03 pm »
It's all good, as long as you have the will power not to become addicted. I'm TOTALLY against E, tonic, meth, etc. because that is the shit that ruins lives. Pot ain't all that bad.
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« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2007, 12:54:59 am »
i personally would never do any drugs but hey if u wanna by all means its ur life not mine

but cigarettes are gross on all levels

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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2007, 10:01:38 am »
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i personally would never do any drugs but hey if u wanna by all means its ur life not mine

but cigarettes are gross on all levels
*nods* yep, cigarettes=gross. i really don't like the smell of smoke, it makes it hard to breathe
 
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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2007, 01:31:18 pm »
totally they are pretty unbearable they make smokers and there stuff smell bad too its nasty

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« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2007, 04:57:51 pm »
cigarettes are the reason my Grandma died (well techincally it just made her have heart disease, but that resulted in a heart attack which killed her) that's why i'm promising myself that i'll never smoke. i don't want to have my kids(when i have them, note: i don't have kids now, but i want them once i'm married  ), or have my family see me dead to soon. i don't want anyone to be in pain or to be suffering because of a choice i made.
 
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« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2007, 09:32:25 pm »
totally agree ace w/ everyting but the kida part dont want them unless their adopted

 


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