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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 09:18:48 pm »
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Alternative never goes alone, Flask. And there's a very small line between Alt Rock and Nu Metal. -_-

You'll be sure I'll listen to all of those songs Joker. =D Coming from the master of metal they have to be good.

Thanks Dagny, I'll check those out.


 Let me know what if any of those you like, I know "a guy" that has the albums some of those songs are from uploaded to rapidshare.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2007, 09:29:04 pm »
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I hate Metal and Rap.

And I'm actually a decent singer. I've written around 15 songs. We should do a web-mic duet sometime, Loren. That is, if you have a voice.

OH SCORCHED.

jkjk...>_>

I can't sing. BUT I CAN PLAY A REALLY EASY ERIC CLAPTON SONG ON THE GUITAR.

OH, SCORCHED.

jkjk..

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2007, 09:32:22 pm »
When I sing babies explode. u_u

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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2007, 09:38:49 pm »
I can death grunt and sing decently.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2007, 10:57:29 pm »
Metal "singing" sucks. Period. The growl is fucking annoying. The screeches are usually overdone to the point that they suck. The actual singing is so forced that it just sounds like shit.

Metalcore has some of that crappiness mixed with the goodness of hardcore singing.

Alternative (in general) has almost none of that crappiness.

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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2007, 11:58:42 pm »
Listening to metal for the vocals (or lyrics, for that matter) is like watching an action movie for the story. Yeah, they're there, but they're not really the point, and if you can't get over it, well, you're missing out on all the other good stuff. Actually, I'd say heavy metal pretty much is the musical equivalent to action movies, period. Yeah, sometimes it's dumb, sometimes there's not much variety (well, within the subgenres - most death metal sounds the same, IMO, for example, though within "metal" itself there's a huge variety it'd be dumb to dismiss outright), but who cares? Sometimes you just have to say "fuck you" to subtlety and just enjoy the sheer thrill of the balls to the wall action and craziness going on.

And metalcore in general isn't that good. Especially the more commercial stuff, which utterly fails at mixing "hard" and "soft" well. If there's one thing I hate in music, it's jarring, badly done transitions between "hard" and "soft" sections.

As for alternative, for the most part, I like a lot of it, but it just lacks the sheer, visceral thrill metal has for me. There's just not enough energy in it, and so much of it just seems too self-conscious, like "hey look at us we're being totally natural and artistic and stuff." Attitude (not like "attitude" that means badass or something like that, but the other kind, the more general kind) is important in music to me and the attitude of a lot of alternative rock turns me off.

If my post seems incoherent or something, well, I'm dead fucking tired and have been for more than a week now.
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2007, 12:18:48 am »
If all Metal does is get you pumped, and you'll listen to it solely for that purpose...man, stare at a painting for a few hours. You need it.

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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2007, 12:20:46 am »
You're basing his thoughts and intellect on the kind of music he likes? <_< Ouch, thats low. I like insane riffs, double bass drum pounding and screaming vocals now and then. But I never, ever said my favorite type of music, bands or songs did I? I also love action movies, but my favorites are thrillers. See my point? Just cause someone likes something doesn't mean thats ALL they like.

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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2007, 12:38:25 am »
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Metal "singing" sucks. Period. The growl is fucking annoying. The screeches are usually overdone to the point that they suck. The actual singing is so forced that it just sounds like shit.

Metalcore has some of that crappiness mixed with the goodness of hardcore singing.

Alternative (in general) has almost none of that crappiness.

Please die. Hardcore singing is crap. It's just shouting nothing special at all. At least with grunting you need to have to have talent and practice at it to do it.

EDIT: P.S. - You ever heard power metal singers? Those guys are generally pretty fucking amazing singers.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 12:41:27 am by Dagny Taggart »
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2007, 12:40:06 am »
Dagny has a point. Some guy singing constantly in a low tone growl gruggling over thunderchug riffs is not music, its a headache. Hard Rock/Heavy Metal is completely different, and rules. Nu Metal generally sucks too, but Disturbed is an exception.

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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2007, 12:44:59 am »
Strapping Young Lad - Oh My Fucking God

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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2007, 12:48:02 am »
I have better taste in music than you...

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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2007, 12:49:49 am »
Better taste then who? <_<

Also, lol opinion train.

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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2007, 12:55:21 am »
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Better taste then who? <_<

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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 12:55:26 am »
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If all Metal does is get you pumped, and you'll listen to it solely for that purpose...man, stare at a painting for a few hours. You need it.

So because I like metal because it's exciting I must be an uncultured dolt who's unable to appreciate anything artistic or use my brain, right? My appreciation of Voltaire, Cervantes, Orwell, Heller, Vonnegut, Velazquez, and Goya, my favorites among all others in their fields, must be some sort of a fluke because I listen to metal, right? Just because I look for something different in my music than you do doesn't mean I'm some testosterone driven Philistine. If that wasn't what you were getting at, you should probably make yourself clearer when expressing yourself.
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2007, 12:56:51 am »
omg I have a last.fm too >_>

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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2007, 12:59:06 am »
I don't like Metal very much.
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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2007, 12:59:26 am »
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omg I have a last.fm too >_>

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You have okay taste. It was nice to see Faith No More up there. Patton is God.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2007, 01:18:50 am »
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<3 Mathcore/Metalcore.

[a href=\"http://homepage.kennythefox.com/files/Botc...at%20Engine.mp3\" target=\"_blank\"]http://homepage.kennythefox.com/files/Botc...at%20Engine.mp3[/a]

Basically.

I'll also second the Converge recommendation someone else mentioned earlier, and add a Dillinger Escape Plan - Panasonic Youth to the mix. Here is the vid:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNb-YT5ECA" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNb-YT5ECA</a>
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